Friday, January 20, 2017

Tonight I read "Why Plato Wrote Dialogues" a chapter from Kenneth M. Sayre's text Plato's Literary Garden. While I was reading, I was wondering why there is debate as to whether these are dialogues Plato imagined or whether he was actually with Socrates. Sayre poses a good point when he states "The fact that Brutus was an actual contemporary of Julius Caesar does not make Shakespeare's story of a conversation between them a depiction of an actual conversation". Likewise, the fact that Plato writes of conversations between Socrates and himself or Socrates and others does not make it a real conversation. My thought is wouldn't we be calling it a documentary if it was a real recording of Socrates? To me Plato was an artist. He used Socrates as his medium, to imagine what conversations would be like and to pose and try and answer philosophical questions that are bothering his intellectual mind. People do not assume Shakespeare's work is non-fiction, so why Plato?

I believe that it is a matter of both dramatization and the lack of meta cognition. Meta cognition is when we think about thinking. It is an interesting phenomenon that humans do; one that cognitive psychologists study. I think that if you think about Plato thinking about Socrates, it is easy to see it as a story. It is easy to picture him writing about what could have been or imagined conversations. I also believe that many people just assume he was there because he was one of Socrates friends. Why wouldn't Plato record everything word for word? Isn't Socrates supposed to be one of the most famous philosophers of human time? This is where the dramatization occurs. We want it to be a real conversation because the problems posed are so fruitful and perplexing. If it is just a story, then I can imagine that some would feel as though Plato is more of a storyteller than a philosopher. I feel like it is very easy for many of them to just want the dialogues to be documentations. Even though they are not, the dialogues of Plato are just as critical to the philosophical thought processes as any other text. I have been one of those people that has always assumed his dialogues were recorded and not created. It is interesting to look at now with a fresh mind and see Plato's work as artistic philosophical writings in the wake of his friends demise.

3 comments:

  1. We should probably spend some time in class on meta-cognition--I really like the direction you've taken it. And it is curious why the debate exists, but drama has for a long time been a form of popular history (Shakespeare's histories are just one example). It doesn't quite excuse the controversy, but the relationsip between the dialogue and Greek drama might be useful here.

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  2. I think some people are tempted to see Plato's dialogues as recordings of conversations because by doing so, the reader is stripped of the responsibility of having to evaluate each work through different lenses, rather than just weighing the merits of the content.

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  3. This is a very interesting viewpoint, I like it. I wonder if there is a place where Plato melded together drama and philosophy. The way he was shunning writing about philosophy makes me lean more towards the idea that his writings were not meant to only transcribe his philosophical ideas.

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